The unexpected friendship

What happens when two people who should’ve never crossed paths become the friends everyone wishes they had? In this episode of We Said What You’re Thinking we get an introduction into the unexpected friendship of Shauny and Erin, along with the catastrophic consequences of a friendship that almost didn't happen!

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:06

Hello everyone and welcome to the first episode of We Said What You're Thinking. Yes, it's me, it's Shawnee. I don't know why. I don't know why we say that that's my name, but you guys know me on Instagram as Chanel Benson. And obviously, behind every every person, every good woman, there is a best friend. And I am so excited to introduce you guys to my ride or die, my best friend forever. My best friend forever. No. Miss Erin Caltech, everybody.

SPEAKER_01 0:37

The one and only.

SPEAKER_00 0:38

The one and only. Okay, okay. So um let's get straight into this. We have been trying to come up with a podcast for a hot minute. It's been a minute, yeah. It's been a minute. Yeah. So we um we came up with we said what you're thinking because obviously we said what you're thinking. And more. So we wanted to like obviously I wanted to get into kind of, you know, who the fuck are you? Like, who the fuck is this person? Like, why are we even doing this? What is this about? And I've I've had so many people talk about um, you know, doing a podcast, doing all that stuff. Yeah. And I wanted to do this with you because I was like, we're hilarious together. Like this is that this is that friendship. We really are. We really are like it's like the broship. It's like the bro friendship of like every woman. Because I feel like, I feel like with women, you know, as much as it's nice to talk about like makeup and like lattes, it's like, no mate, I've got I've got my broship and it's it's hardcore. Like that woman that brings out the masculine in me. Right, right. So I wanted to talk about how like how we even met. Like this is the most unexpected friendship. Like we come from different walks of life.

SPEAKER_01 1:53

Nobody thought this friendship would ever exist.

SPEAKER_00 1:57

Or last. No, like no one picked it. Like and I think that's what's crazy is um like it's like the merging of two different timelines. Like who would be?

SPEAKER_01 2:09

Two considerely opposite.

SPEAKER_00 2:10

Yeah. Really? I mean, white trash meets white trash meets house desperate housewife, meets trophy wife. Like what the actual um okay, so let's go back, let's go into it. So, where did we meet? How did we meet? How did it even start? Like, what even is this?

SPEAKER_01 2:29

Well, it started just, I mean, a friend group merging, really. It was love at first. Yes, it was love at first for you for sure.

SPEAKER_00 2:38

No, it wasn't like that.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

You're like, I have to have her in my life.

SPEAKER_00 2:41

No, okay, so let's do a little bit of a backstory. So um I lived in one of those kind of lifestyles where everything was done for me, everything was given to me, down to who I could be friends with. And I was always just told, you know, we're gonna do this and you're gonna be friends with this person's wife. So it was nothing new to me to like get told, oh, we're going on a trip, we're gonna go. I think the first trip was Disney, right?

SPEAKER_01 3:03

Yeah, Disney was our first one.

SPEAKER_00 3:04

Yeah, so it was a Disney trip, and um, I was told a bunch of couples are going on this Disney trip, and I was gonna have a great time. And like for me, I was like, people, people, like and I'm like, oh no. Like I'm a super social person, even though I come up, like even though to you, like I'm not.

SPEAKER_01 3:24

Well, and I'm I'm not a social person. Like, don't put me in those situations. Oh my god. She's like this prissy white lady.

SPEAKER_00 3:30

She's she is human resources in in her body. She sits she screams like, hi, how are you today? But like on the inside, she's like, Why are you talking to me? Don't fucking talk to me.

SPEAKER_01 3:43

Don't talk to me. Don't look at me.

SPEAKER_00 3:45

Like prissy white lady, like beautiful, sweet. She is literally like you are the front desk of your husband's business, right? It not my husband's. It's mine too. Okay. I am sorry. Sorry, sorry. Yeah, she is the face. She is the hi. Welcome to our business. Like, beautiful blonde lady, and then she rips up, she's got tattoos, and she's this just ruthless, brutal person, but in a beautiful, loving way. I'm like, I love you. Like, I do. And if I could get mushy, like if I could get really mushy here, like I feel like in every woman's life, like you need to have a friend. You need that friend that you can call and be like, yo, shit's hit the fan. Like, I need you right now. I need you right now. Yeah. And that's Erin for me. Because as much as I, you know, try to be this independent woman, I do have people, I have good people behind me. Like I've got five people behind me. Three of them I gave birth to. Like, I don't really have any friends. I've got Erin. I don't even anyway. But anyway, so um, yeah, so we were kind of like forced into this kind of not forced, but we were we were put in a situation where like, you know, no news to me, I had to be friends with somebody's wife. And honestly, I never I always get along with everyone. And I think that when I was told about Erin, I don't think I even met your husband at the time.

SPEAKER_01 5:08

I can't remember. I don't, I don't remember.

SPEAKER_00 5:10

Yeah. Anyway, I didn't know who I just got told, you're gonna meet these people, we're gonna go to Disneyland, it's gonna be great. And I was like, great, let's do it. And like, yeah, I don't remember much of that. Like you were just super standoffish, super whatever.

SPEAKER_01 5:24

Very much so. Yeah, because I I didn't want to go on that trip in the first place. Like, like I said, I I keep my circle very small, and like letting new people in is not my thing. Like, yeah, I we're not gonna be friends. I'm never gonna see you again in my life. Like, she's just uncalled bitch. So I'm like, why are we doing this? Why do I have to be friends with another person that I don't want to be friends with? Because my husband is the exact opposite. He's very outgoing and very social. So he's like golden retriever to the max.

SPEAKER_00 5:52

He's just like he thrives, yes, like crazy.

SPEAKER_01 5:54

Like and I'm like the complete opposite.

SPEAKER_00 5:57

No, and I think that's what it was. Okay, so we kind of were forced into this like acquaintance ship, and then it wasn't until we went to Cabo, right? We went to Cabo because I just remember Carbo. Like I remember Carbo so distinctly in my mind. And like, okay, for a little bit more of a backstory, I feel like all my life I kind of lived in like a shark tank. Like I lived in a shark tank. Um, and people would just eat me alive. Like I was always on display and I was just eaten alive. It was like um people only ever wanted to be friends with me because of what because of who I was, right? Like because of or because of what what lifestyle I had. Yeah. Yeah. And that's the truth. So um I definitely think I I was I drank, right? Not that I was ever a thing, like I'll just say I'm two years sober now, completely not drank. Like Erin doesn't drink. Her and her husband have been drink alcohol free since what?

SPEAKER_01 6:56

It's like 27 years. 27 years.

SPEAKER_00 7:00

Because why? Yeah, why? Yeah, no. Hey, if you want to drink, that's your thing. But like, um, and because of this woman, like it was one of the best decisions I ever made. And not that I was an alcoholic, it's just I feel like I was drinking to escape my reality. Well, not only escape it, but live in it. Like, oh yeah, to like almost numb myself up. Yeah. Yeah. So we went to Cabo with a bunch of other couples. It was a great time. The time of our lives. We have so much fun. And I don't think anyone thought we'd be friends. Like we we all had mutual friends, but nobody thought that this would be the friendship that would really No, not in a million years.

SPEAKER_01 7:38

No. Yeah. Like when I say different walks of life, like yes completely different walks of life. Yeah. I have three jobs, you have none. Like I do my own laundry, you don't.

SPEAKER_00 7:50

I do now. I do now, guys. I do now. And that's that's that's for another episode. But um, yeah, so I remember, and I think the moment for me, I knew when we were sitting on the plane, I looked at Erin and I was like, I'm gonna be friends with her. Like I just knew. And I was like Like I said, it was love at first sight. It was real at first sight. She's gonna get she's gonna get the biggest head. She's gonna get the biggest head at the end of this. I'm just saying it. Okay, so um basically I remember the moment I was like trash most of this carbo trip. And this is so like this is tacky. Like I look back and I'm like, ew, who was that? Like, how long ago is that? Like four years? Like three, four years ago, yeah. Something like that. And um, I'm so used to people just not sucking up to me, just anyone would want to be friends with me. So it was like, it was everyone tried hard to be friends. That Erin literally was the first person who sat me down and was like, What the fuck are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 8:48

Like, what are you doing? What are you doing?

SPEAKER_00 8:50

She's like, What are you doing with your life? And I'm like, excuse me, I'm fine.

SPEAKER_01 8:54

Who are you?

SPEAKER_00 8:55

Like, I'm don't tell me what to no, but it was like such a breath of fresh air. And I feel like that's what we need as humans. Like, like when you find somebody that just has the balls, well, I say balls, but I mean just doesn't give a fuck. Like, she didn't care who I was, she didn't care what I had to offer, she didn't care if we were gonna be friends or not. She was just like, what are you fucking doing? Like, what do you do you think this is cool? Like being drunk and acting like a twat?

SPEAKER_01 9:21

Well, and I think you saw too, like with us, we weren't drinking and we still were having the time of our lives. Like we were having so much fun. I was still the life of the party, even though you're plastered.

SPEAKER_00 9:31

Life of the party. No, but that was the thing, and it's just like, um, like it's a completely different walks of life. Like, yeah, like what the heck did I have to offer you? Like, bloody how could anyone take me seriously?

SPEAKER_01 9:45

Like, I don't think I took me seriously. Well, and I think that's why I was like so brutally honest with you.

SPEAKER_00 9:52

It was that's what it was. You were brutally honest, and it was the first time someone had been honest with me because everyone had to be so so sucky up yes like, oh, let's be best friends.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

But like you said, what what do I have to gain? I have nothing to gain. Yeah. What do I have to lose?

SPEAKER_00 10:07

Why do you want to be friends with this, like, you know, trophy wife dressed in a freaking cake face of makeup and tiny little dress? Like, hi, how are you?

SPEAKER_01 10:16

And I'm like, I'm never gonna see you again.

SPEAKER_00 10:18

You're like, I didn't care. Hey, what the fuck are you doing? I was just like, whoa, no one's ever spoken to me like that. And I think that's what it was. Like having that brutal honesty really just was like, oh shit, like what am I doing?

SPEAKER_01 10:32

But I also felt like at that time, like there was a reason I came into your life. I wasn't exactly sure why at that time.

SPEAKER_00 10:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:39

But even my husband was like, you need to befriend her.

SPEAKER_00 10:43

Like she's screaming for help. You need to help this lost. She's surrounding. Maybe that's what it was. You kind of just saw it in me. Yeah. And I think um at the same time, I was also going through a pretty big like spiritual awakening within myself, like and my life, because my life was on display. And like I said, it was I was in a shark tank. Literally, people would just eat, like, rip me to shreds.

SPEAKER_01 11:10

Well, I also felt like you had to be somebody that you weren't, like you were always on. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 11:15

Absolutely. Always on, always performing, and always just I don't know. And Erin kind of saw through it, and that's where it really shifted for me. Like after that, what was it? The race, that's when it really took off. Yeah. Okay, so okay, there's more to this story than anything because guys, this friendship, unexpected friendship, but it almost didn't happen. Like this didn't happen. And where I am today, I owe it to this friendship so much because you know, I have a great support system behind me, but like getting me to where I am now, like, I couldn't have done it without this woman. I really couldn't have. You could have. I couldn't have. I really couldn't have because she took a bullet for me. And taking a bullet for someone, and when I say take a bullet, I mean like World War III grenades, like bleeding out on the floor. And I'm just like, could you just, could you just stick a bandaid on the room?

SPEAKER_01 12:06

You're like, are you good? Come on, let's go. Can we keep going?

SPEAKER_00 12:10

What are you doing? Like, who the heck would want a friendship like this? But I feel like that's where the greatest, like, you know, love stories, if you want to say it like that. Yes, she's got a husband, she's happily married, and I don't shoot for that team. But, you know, every friendship, like, she would be my soulmate. I would say that for sure. And I needed that to get to this phase of my life. And when I say she took a bullet for me, let's go into that story. The race. Dun dun dun. Like this is this is that part of the story that like really changed the trajectory of our lives.

SPEAKER_01 12:46

No, it really did.

SPEAKER_00 12:47

And it it no, like don't beat around the bush. It literally changed the trajectory of our lives. It was the one thing that kind of took everything off.

SPEAKER_01 12:57

Yeah.

unknown 12:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:58

Because, like we said, no one expected us to be.

SPEAKER_01 13:01

Like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 13:02

Right now. Like, you know, people, you know, businesses in in freaking shambles, people not knowing where they're gonna live, and like shit hit the fan.

SPEAKER_01 13:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:12

All because of two people wanting to be friends. And like there were times when we we weren't speaking. Like I couldn't speak to Erin. I couldn't even do it.

SPEAKER_01 13:19

No, and I wrote you off. I'm like, I'm done. I again, like, I don't need this friendship. I wanted it. I loved having it, but like I was done. Yeah. Because I don't do drama in my life. Like, well, you picked the wrong telenovella.

SPEAKER_00 13:33

Yeah. I am the telenovella of my life. Like, I am the story because But how many times did I say, look, I'm done.

SPEAKER_01 13:40

I I'm not doing this anymore. I wish you the best. I want you to be safe and happy, but I I can't do this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:48

It came with a lot of baggage and a lot of a lot. It was a lot. And so when I say Erin took a bullet, like her and her husband took a bullet, they literally they lost a lot. They lost friendships. They lost everything because of still lost friendships, but still gone. And it comes down to so we were gonna do so no.

SPEAKER_01 14:05

Erin I so I set out a goal to when I turned 45, I was gonna run a half marathon. And nothing was gonna stop me. And I signed up for the rock and roll marathon, and it was actually on my 45th birthday. So I was like, perfect. I'm gonna do this. And that's it. Like I signed up for it. And then we were at dinner. Uh-huh. And we, it was just all of us girls.

SPEAKER_00 14:29

Yeah. The guys are off at some fight or something.

SPEAKER_01 14:31

Yeah. And I just, I don't even know how it got brought up. I don't know if I was training for it at that time or how it even brought got brought up. But I said, you know, I'm going to do this half marathon. It's the rock and roll. They shut the whole strip down. It's going to be amazing.

SPEAKER_00 14:45

And I had just started running. I think I'd only started running a month before this. And I was like, And I don't even I'm going to do it.

SPEAKER_01 14:51

I don't even think I knew you were running.

SPEAKER_00 14:53

Yeah. No, like we didn't at that time. And we weren't close then because we were still just like friends of a friend. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:59

Um So then you were like, well, I'm going to sign up for it. I'm like, ooh.

SPEAKER_00 15:02

You're like, okay. Whatever. Okay. But I was like, no, I want to do this race. And like for me, like um, like within myself and what I was like, I want to achieve something like that because I'd never thought that I could be a runner. And now I mean, we can run. And it's very therapeutic. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 15:20

You fight through these demons and these emotions that you didn't even know you had.

SPEAKER_00 15:23

That's why all the people that like literally go through the most traumatic things in their life usually turn to something like long distance sports, like something super hardcore on the body. Like, I don't know, maybe it's just a choice. We want to endure something. Endurance sports. Yeah. Endurance sports and like trauma go hand in hand.

SPEAKER_01 15:44

100%. Yeah. And I think I called you at one point because you got me into like the interval training on the treadmill. And I called you at one point, like, why am I crying on the treadmill right now? Like, what is happening?

SPEAKER_00 15:53

You're springing up the inner trauma you have healed. No, it's a thing. Like, that's a thing. If you're if you're in your like 30s to 40s, you kind of like hit this point where you're just like, no, I'm gonna take up running. Why not? I'm just gonna go torture myself. Like, let me just pick the most torturing sport. In the middle of summer. In the middle of summer. Start training. No, so we um so Erin signs up for this race, and I just said, I'm gonna do it. And I was like, oh, what a like it it'd be good to do it with her. And um, like I don't think we were training together or anything.

SPEAKER_01 16:23

No, I mean, no.

SPEAKER_00 16:24

We just we couldn't. Yeah. Well, she lives in bloody whoop woop. Like, she lives, like, okay, Vegas is big, but like when I say we live on opposite sides, like completely opposite sides. The other day I went to Erin's house for the first time. We've been friends for four years. I go to her house for the first time, and I'm like, Where am I? Am I in Alabama? Like, I'm talking big trucks, every everyone's got a big truck. Everyone, I I'm in my cyber truck, like the most opposite of everything. And I'm like, I don't belong here.

SPEAKER_01 16:54

Where am I? What am I doing?

SPEAKER_00 16:56

Where's the American flag? Oh, there it is. I'm like, this is Erin. Like, just yes, Erin. That's Erin. But um, yeah, so we You signed up for it. We sign up for it, we train separately. This is six months before the actual race. And I don't think anyone thought I was gonna do this marathon. Like, I don't not my parents didn't think no one people thought I was gonna do it, but they didn't think I'd follow through because of the consequences. Catastrophic. Catastrophic consequences without going too much into it because obviously I don't want to. Um, no. You don't have to. I don't have to. No, I do have to, but we can't. So we won't. Um I basically it was a life or death kind of thing. Like, yeah. It was a catastrophic.

SPEAKER_01 17:40

I even told you, like, are you sure you want to go through with this? Are you sure this is something that you want to do? Even like up and to the point where we got the race numbers, you're like, are you sure?

SPEAKER_00 17:49

Yeah, we showed you.

SPEAKER_01 17:50

I was genuinely worried and concerned.

SPEAKER_00 17:52

Erin was like, Are you sure you like I'm I get my number and she's like, Are you sure you're gonna do this? She still doesn't think I'm gonna show up to the race the next day. No, up until the time of you actually showing up. You know, I don't think I thought I was gonna show up. I think I woke up the next morning knowing I had to race. I like had a smoothie about to run freaking 13.1 miles, and I all I had was like a hundred calorie smoothie, and I'm like, just get me out of this house. Yeah. But I did it. I still worried. Oh, I think my parents were worried, everyone was worried. I snuck out of my house. My kids were with my parents, I got in the car, I closed the car, and I just drove. I drove down to the strip and I was like, fuck, I did it. Like, and I can't explain that feeling. You know, when you do something that like I we we're hyping it, like I just ran a race, but when when when you kind of know the background of things and like there were catastrophic consequences for me doing this race, the fact that I went through and did it anyway, like it not only showed myself that I had that self-reliance that I was like, oh shit, I can do this. Yeah. Like it was, there was so much like that. If I could go back, that race, that race was one of those. I remember running, like as soon as they told us to go, like the sun is setting. I'm I'm running down the strip and I see the the sun setting behind the Luxor, and I'm like, holy shit, this is the best feeling. And then I was like, holy shit, I'm doing this. Yeah. And I'm running, and I'm like, oh, and I'm like, Right, where's Erin?

SPEAKER_01 19:18

Like, what and when you parked, I'm like, holy shit, she's here. She's actually here. She's doing it. Holy shit, she's doing it.

SPEAKER_00 19:24

And like you kind of swallow, you're like, I'm fucked.

SPEAKER_01 19:28

Now shit.

SPEAKER_00 19:31

Oh my God. But yeah, that was uh we did it. We did that race, finished the race. Erin finished it on her 45th birthday. It was a good time.

SPEAKER_01 19:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:42

Yeah. So endurance sports, if you're looking for like a way to process your trauma, take up running. Take up running. It'll do it. It'll do it. It'll do it for sure. But that's where I say, like, we couldn't be friends. So after this, obviously with my consequences, I wasn't allowed to talk. Erin was now, this is when she was bleeding out. Like she's obviously supported me through everything I did. Anything I say that I want to do, this woman has always been the one person that's like, well, let's ride it. Yeah, like we ride at dawn. How are we doing it? Yeah, how are we doing it? Like, who's driving? Okay, let's do it. Because I feel like she's one of those people that helps me be a better person. Like I say I'm gonna do something, she never gives me a reason I can't. Although sometimes Nancy comes out and plays devil's advocate. We call her Nancy. Negative Nancy. Negative Nancy. She comes out every night.

SPEAKER_01 20:34

Hello. I'm just looking at it like, let's be realistic.

SPEAKER_00 20:37

Yeah. Devil's advocate. We'll say it like that. Because I've I live in Dululand most of the time, which is why I think I'm sitting here right now, literally fresh out of a an extremely long relationship and just starting my life over. You're like, let's do it. Let's do it. Like life's too short. But she's bleeding out all over limbs in different places. She took a grenade, mate. She took a grenade. Her and her husband, they're just completely outed. No one was allowed to talk to them. They were unfollowed. Unfollowed, blocked, like cut out from our friend group. And like I was still there because obviously, you know, girls gotta eat.

SPEAKER_01 21:18

And I'm like, what did I do? Yeah, what did yeah, what did I do?

SPEAKER_00 21:23

Besides choose to be I even told you don't do it. Yeah, she was there on the day. Like, don't do this. And she's like, she's fucking here. Okay. She's gonna need someone to walk her to her car. And I did. But like, um, yeah, so we we weren't allowed to be friends for so long. We weren't allowed to talk, really.

SPEAKER_01 21:45

No. And like I think we said I I would text you on your birthday and no response. And and I don't know what I was expecting either. Like I understood where you were at, but on the other hand, I'm like, this is stupid. Yeah. Like this is. Stupid. Yeah, it's stupid. And then again, I'm like, okay, well, bye.

SPEAKER_00 22:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:04

I don't need you.

SPEAKER_00 22:05

But it's like that she was always there. When shit hit the fan for me, I was like, I gotta call Erin.

SPEAKER_01 22:11

And I was like, what the fuck am I doing? Like, and I'd answer the phone and you'd be like, hey. I'm like, here we go.

SPEAKER_00 22:16

Here we go. What do you need? What did you where's the body? Like, what are we doing? But um, and I think I kind of it made me realize I was like, all of the people in my life are pretend. And we had a friend who turned out to be that, and we'll go into that. We've got a really fun episode about that. We're gonna call her what? Kathy. Kathy. Kathy. We'll go into that a little bit later because that talks about like um, you know, friendships. And I feel like female friendships are so important for women, you know, as great it is as it is to have a partner, but like having female friendships not only strengthens you in your femininity, it actually makes me feel super strong in my masculine. Because for some reason, when Erin and I get together, like I can be the prissiest, primi little ditz in the world, but like you put me next to Erin, and all of a sudden, bloody mate, the yobo chenille comes out, and it's like this masculinity. And I feel like, but having that strength in your masculinity, it it really levels you out.

SPEAKER_01 23:18

Like it does. But see, like you say this about like feminine friendships, and I I think the opposite. Well, like I think girls are dangerous.

SPEAKER_00 23:27

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:28

I don't know. Oh, especially here in Vegas.

SPEAKER_00 23:30

Yeah, they will cut you. These girls, and I'm telling you, so let's touch into Kathy. Let's talk about it. The the socialite, the perfect, like, oh hi, how are you? Like, let's go to brunch. Like these girls, these are the ones to watch out for. And like I say this with love because I'm a lover and I just I believe we all have stories, we all have purposes in crossing each other's lives, but like some of the some of these women, it's the ones that overdo it to please you, are the ones you gotta look out for. Like, we're talking this woman had like restraining orders, like we didn't even know. And she literally ruined, she can ruin lives.

SPEAKER_01 24:08

Yeah. And like that's and it happens so fast you don't even know what's happening.

SPEAKER_00 24:11

Yeah. Like I'm living in the outside.

SPEAKER_01 24:12

And you she's the last person you would think that would be doing it.

SPEAKER_00 24:15

Holy crap. I'm so excited for that episode, guys. Uh, we like you gotta you, I think we're gonna that's episode three. So um we have a pretty fun season coming up for you guys. But uh when we say that, like female friendships are so important, but with the right people. Yeah. Because I, like I said, I lived in a shark tank. Everybody wanted to. I had mums on the PTA that would be like, wouldn't look me in the eye, like couldn't even give me the time of day. And then as soon as they'd find out who's who my kid's dad was or who I was, it was, oh hi, Chanel. Like, you want to do a play date? And I'm like, oh now you know my name, mate. Now you know my name. And I think that's why I was always now. Now I'm good enough for you. Now I'm good enough. But that's why I think this friendship kind of like really drew me in because I was like, she don't give a fuck. She does not care.

SPEAKER_01 25:02

I don't. Yeah. I just, I mean, like I said, I my circle's small, I have my family, and that's those are the most important people in my life. Now, if we're friends, that's a great extra to have. Like, I I love this friendship and I love what we have, but you're not attached.

SPEAKER_00 25:17

No, I'm not attached because it can be the universe, just complete detachment. That's why this is so flowy because she does not give a fuck. She'll text me, she's like, Are you alive? Like, I haven't heard from you today. Are you alive? Like that's where talk about low maintenance, low maintenance friendship.

SPEAKER_01 25:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:35

But that's where it comes down to like um authenticity. And I think that's a really big part of it. So, like Erin and I come from completely different backgrounds. Yes. Like, she grew up in a trailer. No, she was married in a trailer.

SPEAKER_01 25:52

I wasn't married in the trailer. I lived in the trailer when we got married. Trailer park. I got married in bed.

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That's what we're talking about. No, but like, um, and I I was in this, you know, glitz and glam high lifestyle of like, woe is me kind of thing. Yeah. So it was like clash of the words.

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But then I was also like, I have nothing to offer this girl. Like, we have nothing in common. And I have nothing to offer you.

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Like we can't. Here's the water. Here's the water. But careful. It might poison you. Like, make sure it's sealed. Um, but I think that's what's magical about it. And I think having that is so hard to find. And that's what I think we wanted to do this for. Yeah. We wanted to create a space where it's just like, because I've made a following on Instagram and I've actually connected with so many women. And these women have kind of become like a community of like um, you know, strong, independent women that are just looking to have that friendship. You know, at the the end of a long day, say you're a mom or you work or whatever it is, like whatever walk of life it is, it's like, where is that real shit? Because you see so many of these podcasts on there, and it's just like, how to lose a guy in 10 days, guys, you have to be perfect. And it's less like, no, mate, like let's be real. Like, all bullshit aside, like we're all human. We all want love, we all want connection, and having human connection is where it's at. Like, if like if you have that one friend, like I can call Erin and I can be like, mate, this this fucking dude, like this fucking thing. Like, I don't even have to say hello, how are you? Like, none of the performative bullshit. It is completely authentic and real. And like, I think we want to share that with the world. We want to share that with women. We want to share that part of us that's just like, there are no judgments. Like, I think that's what it is with Erin too and me. It's like, tell me the worst things that you have done and let us love you anyway. Like, I don't think I'll top it. Exactly. No, we'll top it. We like some of those skeletons. Oh, wait, but the next episode is gonna blow you out of the water. Like, we're gonna get into this little girl. Little girl. We're gonna get into this. We're gonna talk about it. We're talking beauty queen gone, felon. She's a felon. Oh I'm not kidding. I'm talking jumpsuits, I'm talking long. No, it wasn't jumpsuits.

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It was black and white stripes, okay?

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Black and white stripes. And she was pregnant. What? Oh, shut the front door. No. Um, but we want to create a safe space for everybody to like just have that.

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Feel relatable too. Feel relatable.

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Like, it doesn't matter what walk of life you come from. Like, I've lived the I've lived the life of luxury. I've I've seen it all, guys. I've seen it all. The private jets, the the housekeepers, the chefs, I've had the life, the end goal of all the girls in the world. Not there's not one day I think that went by that I didn't get reminded. There are 14 dozen other girls that would love to have what you have. And it's like, whoa, buddy. Like, okay. Take it. Take it. Like, if it's so good, um, you can live in a cage, but if your cage is gold and silver or laced in crystals, a cage is still a cage. And I say this, I say this with love. I say it as in the cre the cage I created for myself. This performative mask that I had to kind of wear to uh hold a lifestyle. Yeah. You know. You did what you had to do though. You do what you gotta do. And like I think we're we're all human, we all have a story, we all have um parts of ourselves that we're not proud of. There's shame there, but it's like, isn't that what makes us human? Like, isn't that what makes us beautiful? Like, and I think that's where there's no and relatable, and there's no judgments here. It's just like second chances matter, everything matters. Like, and it's all about what happened in your life to shape you into the human that you are today. And I think that's I think that's a beautiful thing. Like I really do. Yes, it is. It is a beautiful thing. So, guys, I am super excited to um get this going and bring this out for you guys. We're gonna do, we've got 10 episodes coming to you. We're going to be launching them every Thursday. So whenever you see this one, this is our first baby. This is the the first parts of um us saying what you're thinking. But um we've got a great episode too. And we're gonna go into it. Anyway, um, we said what you're thinking, Shawnee and Erin, and you are welcome.